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  • Aaron Lee : Thank you to everyone for your support over the last year, I look forward to the new leadership's ideas and direction.
  • Aaron Lee : Meet me at San Juan College at 4:00pm on Wednesday 8-11 in rm 7103 in the computer science building.
  • Sheherazade : There is junk ordinance being planned to put into law here in San Juan County. It would make it illegal to have junk in yards anywhere in the county. This is a significant attack on private property. If the county can tell you what you can or can't do with your own yard or your own stuff, then it is no longer your yard or your stuff. This is a very bad idea, total government control right here in our front yards. The hearing is Teusday August 3 at 4 O'Clock at 100 S Oliver in Aztec
  • Edward & Jud : Sarah Palins endorsement can be "life or death" to a candidate. Susanna Martinez was fortunate to be endorsed by Sarah, and has won the right to oppose Diane Denish. We are well on our way to a "change" in NM state government.
  • Gaylon Nelso : Happy 4th of July.
  • Gaylon Nelso : Are there plans for any involement in the Freedom Days Parade by the Tea Party group, or the 9-12 Project
  • Sheherazade : I read online that Sarah Palin has endorse Martinez for governor of NM. She is my last pick of the republican candidates. Palin also endorsed McCain, so maybe her endorsement doesn't mean much. Any thoughts on this? Anyone?
  • Michael L Le : Here's another great video from Ray Stevens «link»
  • Sheherazade : Will it be on network tv, and if so what channel?
  • Aaron Lee : Debate starts at 7:00pm
  • Sheherazade : The Republican primary is coming up. Does anyone have comments (positive or negative) about any of the Republican gubernatorial candidates?
  • Aaron Lee : Sorry about the site problems, the index file was hacked
  • Aaron Lee : We apologize, but you must now login to post in the chat.
  • Sheherazade : This song by ray stevens is a hoot!! «link»
  • [guest_6052] : Was wondering if Farmington was going to be praying tomorrow anywhere? I believe it is the National Day of Prayer.
  • Mike Wagner : In case you haven't seen it, here is a Youtube presentation that you need to see: «link»
  • [guest_7006] : Gpt any pics from tax day rally on the 18th?
  • Aaron Lee : Thanks to all who came out and enjoyed the Tea Party Yesterday. And a special thanks to all those who helped to make it happen.
  • Aaron Lee : Please come out to the Tea Party at 11am at the Gateway Museum
  • [Aaron Lee] : It was voted on by the attendees during one of the March meetings that they would rather have it Saturday.
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Job Rally and free lunch before the EIB Public Comment Hearing. PDF Print E-mail
Written by Aaron Lee   
Friday, 03 September 2010 14:26

WHAT:            Rally for Jobs-Farmington, New Mexico

WHERE:            McGee Park-San Juan County Fairgrounds
41 County Rd. 5568
Farmington, New Mexico 87401

DATE:                        Wednesday, September 8, 2010

TIME:                        Doors open at 11:00 am
Event begins at Noon-1:00 p.m.

SPEAKERS
TO INCLUDE:            Ray Benson, from Asleep at the Wheel, Dr. James Henderson, San  Juan County Commissioner, Rep. Tom Taylor, Marita Noon, Citizens for Responsible Energy

a group of concerned citizens organized by the American Petroleum Institute (API) and other partners today announced a “Rally for Jobs” that will be held in Farmington, New Mexico on September 8, 2010. The rally will be the sixth in a series to take place in five states during the congressional recess period.

“The focus of the rally will jobs and the economy,” said Jack Gerard, CEO and President of API. “U.S. unemployment is high, and Americans have growing concerns over the economic recovery.”

The oil and natural gas industry supports 90,000 jobs in New Mexico and accounts for more than 12 percent of the state’s economy. Oil and natural gas deployment is critical to the economic future of New Mexico as well as a big part of the solution to America’s growing energy and economic recovery.

The rally will mobilize API members and allies on the important topic of energy, jobs, taxes and economic development, and attendees will be encouraged to get involved in the discussions on these issues. There will be opportunities for the media to hear their concerns firsthand.

“Americans want to know the government is working on constructive solutions to the challenges we all face, and the rally will give citizens a chance to express their concerns,” concluded Gerard.

 
Note from The President PDF Print E-mail
Written by Jim Krass   
Friday, 03 September 2010 14:11

 Greetings patriots, The EIB has changed the public hearing from the Farmington Civic Center to room 7103 in the computer science building located at San Juan College. The date and times will remain the same.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
Note from the President PDF Print E-mail
Written by Jim Krass   
Wednesday, 01 September 2010 13:02

Greetings patriots, there will be a meeting at the Totah theater on Tuesday September 7th at 7:00 pm. Please plan to attend and bring a friend, it will be very informative. Also there will be a meeting of the E.I.B. at the Farmington Civic Center September 8th {Wednesday} from 1:00 pm to 8:00pm. If you care about your job and that of your friends, please get there and let your voice be heard.

Enviromental leftist's in New Mexico have a plan to destroy the energy industry in New Mexico and take it over. Its called Cap and Trade. Don't by the lie, that Co2 is dangerous to the planet. It's a vital gas nessesary to sustain all life on earth. Did you know that the most plentiful greenhouse gas is water vapor? Yes I said water vapor, now how dangerous is that?

God bless all of you and God Bless America

Jim Krass President SJC-912

Last Updated on Friday, 03 September 2010 09:55
 
Constitution Week Event PDF Print E-mail
Written by Aaron Lee   
Monday, 23 August 2010 21:26

Making of America Seminar
September 11, 2010 at San Juan College
8:30am to 4:30pm
Cost $15.00 if registered before August 11th, includes study guide
Lunch available for $4.00

"Constitution Week of San Juan County" is a family friendly, weeklong celebration of the US. Constitution that has made America free for over 200 years. The Constitution Week of San Juan County is a non-profit, educational organization dedicated to educating the citizens about the historical significance of the US Constitution and how it protects our natural rights.

There is a "Making of America Seminar" on Sept. 11th, 8:30am-4:30pm at San Juan College. Cost is $15 if registered by Aug. 11th. Seminar includes a study guide. Your family will see, hear, and learn the unforgettable stories that will be a learning experience your family will never forget.

Events planned during Constitution Week include the "Making of America Seminar" on Sept. 11th, Scout Merit Badge Clinic the 15th, Founding Fathers visit to the schools, a Veteran Memorial Service the 17th, and a Constitution Fair on Sept. 18th. The Constitution Fair on Saturday will have games, a Founding Fathers Town Square, entertainment, and more.

Constitution Week is funded entirely by private contributions to continue in the preservation of Liberty. Businesses can sponsor an event giving the organization maximum community exposure. There are a varitey of ways individuals can be involved during the week. The organization is not affiliated with any political party or organization and does not endorse any political candidates. It only teaches the historical and original intent of the US Constitution.

For information on all the activities planned, how to register for the "Making of America Seminar" or to sponsor an event go to the website
http://www.constitutionweeksjc.com/

You can also call 505-360-1560 or email This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it

 
Notes on EIB Meeting/Hearing August 16, Part I PDF Print E-mail
Written by Jim Crawford   
Monday, 23 August 2010 15:32

The marathon onslaught of hearings by EIB to impose carbon capping on the citizens of New Mexico alone got underway Monday August 16.  It is ongoing and will last all week and perhaps longer.  I had to miss some of Tuesday afternoon and all of Wednesday.  I won’t even attempt to give a blow by blow but will try to give some observations.  As an added bonus, Karin Foster, Attorney and Executive Director for the Independent Petroleum Association of New Mexico, who is doing a tremendous job fighting against this nonsense, has shared some of her notes which I will pass on to the rest of you.
Some regular business was done prior to start of the hearing.  I should say monkey business because it was more attack on our liberties.
Agenda Item 5: The board voted 7-0 to issue a Notice of Contemplated Action to a Mr. Mosley.  The action will be to revoke his certification as a radiation technologist.  Now this is not for improper irradiation or anything like that that might be environmental.  They are proposing to revoke this guy’s license because he is behind on child support!  Apparently, the State Parental Responsibility Act allows revocation of any state issued license for child support issues.  It sounds like this could include driver’s license, hunting license, etc.  In this case the Child Support Enforcement Division and NMED decided to petition EIB to go after his professional certification.  While this may be strictly legal, it certainly seems like a far stretch for the EIB to take this on.  Mosley may be a jerk but it certainly does not seem appropriate for EIB to be involved.  It is one more example of how insidious this board is and how deeply they are controlling our lives and liberties.
Agenda Item 6: Just in case there are not already enough hearings scheduled between now and the end of the year, NMED is in another panic and requesting a hearing for November 8 to revise rules for Prevention and Significant Deterioration (PSD) when issuing operating permits.  PSD’s are one more restriction on emissions dealing with visibility.  NMED claims this will not be controversial.  However, they are always in a big rush and are adamant that the revisions must be made by December 31.  Their standard line is that the board must agree to have the hearing as requested because of filing deadlines.  They have known they want to do this for a long time. Why did they wait until the last minute unless they are just trying to crash the system.  I guess the way to keep things from being controversial is just over load the public with BS.
Agenda Item 7: As if there is not already enough scheduled, NMED also requested hearings for November 8,9, and 10 for proposed rules for Reporting and Verification of CO2 emissions to implement the carbon capping rules being considered now and in September.  Does this give you a clue that approval of the carbon capping rules is a foregone conclusion?  The reporting rule will determine who will ultimately be subject to the capping rules.  It seems like it would have been nice to have the reporting rule first or at least coincidently so industries knew in advance whether they would be affected by capping or not.  They have the cart before the horse.  Industry representatives made this point but were overruled and the hearing was set on a 6-1 vote.
Agenda Item 8: If you think we are about done for the year, guess again.  NMED also requested a hearing to revise the rules on auto emission standards for December 6.  In this case it sounds like the state is proposing to waive the state emission requirements until 2016 because of new Federal regulations.
Agenda Item 9: Thus, began the marathon hearing of the New Energy Economy (NEE) petition to cap carbon emissions from power generation and oil and gas production within the boundaries of New Mexico.  I will give some observations gathered during the times I was in attendance.
First off and as usual the sound system sucked so badly the audience was not able to hear all that went on.
EIB does not value public comments.  They only take public comments between 7 and 8 PM each night basically excluding most people except their cronies living in Santa Fe.  Fortunately, I got on the list Monday and was able to comment Monday night.  They did their best to discourage people from commenting if we had commented in March or if all we had was more evidence from the swelling body of science dispelling the notion that CO2 is any way contributing to global warming.  NEE had a proposed rule for the original hearing that started March 1.  The public spent the whole day giving their comments on that rule that turned out to be straw rule #1.  On March 2, NEE replaced that rule with straw rule #2.  So, the public had prepared for and spent the day commenting on a proposal that no longer existed.  Now fast forward to Monday August 16.  I was prepared to comment on straw rule #2 only to find that it had been replaced by straw rule #3 issued on Friday August 13.  None of us in the public and several of the attorneys did not know there was a new rule or had copies of it.  They finally made some copies available late in the day.  Is this your idea of an open and transparent process?
I used my allotted 3 minutes to point out the above disregard for the public and to make a point that every member of the board has serious conflicts of interest that will predetermine their decision to approve carbon capping petitions.  Of course this is all said only to the Hearing Officer and the Court Recorder since the board members all leave when public comments start.  Although to be fair, two members did stay on Monday night.  Really gives you a clue about how important they think the public is.
All of Monday was spent in cross examination of Steve Michel.  He is the principle author of the NEE proposed rules.  This guy is a complete environmental zealot and you might as well eat drink and be merry because the world is going to end any minute now.  He made many references to “the scientists” as if the couple dozen responsible for the flawed UN IPCC reports on global warming are the only ones in the world, completely ignoring the ever increasing thousands of scientists that disagree.
Mr. Michel’s straw rule #3 has been reduced to a skinny 5 pages but under questioning he had a difficult time explaining the details of how it would work.  He often invoked the Pelosi/Dodd response that NMED would have to figure out how it would work after it is implemented.  This is not too surprising for a guy that had to look at his notes to say when he graduated college.  He explained several things as being “terms of art in climate change lore”.  Is this a fairy tale or what?
Mr. Michel did concede that perhaps the crisis of global warming is overstated echoing what Tim Wirth, one of the “consensus” scientists said “Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy”.  Mr. Michel said that straw petition #3 would do nothing to affect global warming but that is was important for NM to lead the way and influence other states and the feds to act by example.  He said a NM only rule would buy time to save the rest of the planet but could not say if we would buy years or nanoseconds. He likened you and me to passengers on the Titanic who would not abandon ship for fear someone would steal our meal at the table.  I wonder what he will think when NM leads the way into economic oblivion?
Only 2 of the opposition attorneys were able to finish cross examining Mr. Michel before it was time for public comments at 7PM.  His cross examination will be continued later because a panel of expert witnesses for NEE are flying in from out of state and will be cross examined tomorrow.
I was only in attendance on Tuesday 8/17 until after the lunch break.  NEE had a panel of 4 expert witnesses that were cross examined for the whole day.  I have attached Karin Foster’s summary of that.  That is especially interesting since she was one of the cross examiners during the time I was there.
Like Karin, I came away with the notion that much of the expertise of these people was gained from going to EPA stakeholder meetings and from the Internet.   A lot of the discussion was about methane even though it was stated time and again straw rule #3 has nothing to do with methane.  It was an obvious attempt to entrench the idea that the board might as well include methane in the regulations even though that was not being requested.
I did think a lot of the discussion of oil and gas production, oil refining, and power generation technologies was very interesting.  The main impression I came away with was that in NM and the San Juan Basin in particular the industries are already implementing most of the innovations being suggested.  In other words our folks are already doing what is needed to reduce emissions on their own.  Much of the panel’s discussion was based on examples from NM.  So why do we need this kind of onerous set of regulations?  One panel member remarked that even though industry is already implementing these practices, they just need some extra “push”.
These people will not be happy until they control every aspect of everything we do.
Karin’s observations are attached.  I have also attached what I wrote to give during public comments.  Like I said though, I changed it on the fly to comment about their lack of regard for public comment and the petition sleight of hand they went through.  I did get the conflict of interest part in.

 
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